Curse

shawatsies · Aug 25, 2006, 03:02 PM // 15:02

Class: Mesmer/Monk

Set Up: Shing Jea 15al enchanters armor with all minor runes works
a +5 energy 20%enchants sword/axe works with a illusion offhand i use deeproots sorrow.
att. 13 illusion, 7 fastcast 12 protection rest can go anywhere

Skills: Protect Spirit (PS), Spirit Bond (SB), Ancestors Visage, Sympathetic Visage, Essance Bond, Vital Blessing, Balthazars spirit, open i use hex breaker

Drops: Same Drops as Raisu Palace

The Run: you Start at HARVEST TEMPLE zone out to unwaking waters slap up your 3 enchantments run down and meet the 1st group usually like 4 shiro'ken warriors and 2 rangers cast SB and PS pull warriors 2 the rangers and keep PS and SB up than cast either visage and watch them kill them selves to the FAMINE that the rangers drop, collect your drops and proceed on till u wipe out the Shiro'ken out there, hex breakers only use is for shroud of silence that the assassins use.

The run is easy and simple

Credits got Wrath of Dragons, Clark_Wilson, and myself for using mesmer 1st class and not 2nd class

any ?'s my ign is Nintendo Sixty Four

Exile Of Heaven · Aug 25, 2006, 04:21 PM // 16:21

Nice thinking of famine with draining with sv, never thought of that, i always did it with Sliver armor and aftershock:P, this goes nice 2

White_Chaos · Aug 25, 2006, 04:54 PM // 16:54

I will try it out as Mo/Me

Phatmos · Aug 25, 2006, 05:39 PM // 17:39

Got to say its a realy nice build

, didnt have vital blessing and skill points for it so skipped it, and went fine that also

much hp isn't that needed. used it with 180hp ^^ but nice build!

serpas · Aug 25, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40

tried as a mo/me, found it a little tricky expecially when there are only one shiro'ken warrior left and with only drain skills seems like there are no way to kill rangers.

Anyway the build work for kill some shiro'ken, thanks for sharing

NEVERMIND, the build work great, as usual i do mistakes and don't understand how things work before start trying..

For who don't understand things like me :
The right way for kill a complete group (rangers,warriors or assassins) is to go closer to the rangers and make sure they all are close each other, cast ur protections and drain spells and they will all die soon

Many thanks shawatsies

shawatsies · Aug 25, 2006, 07:09 PM // 19:09

yea its alot easier with monk, u can go with way less health, i only used vital blessing since i dont get divine favor with mesmer and 2 be honest i have never used spirit bond before i still like 2 55 with my monk so i never used it before, just put this up incase someone didnt have a monk harvest temple. hope this build helps out anyone there who wants a farm spot that is superfast and has decent drops.

speedy21589 · Aug 26, 2006, 03:19 AM // 03:19

Yeah, I used to do this run a few months ago (stumbled upon it by accident) with a Mo/Me. I brought Mantra of Resolve for Harvest Temple, activating it with a Visage simultaneously to lessen the chance of interruption (Shiro'ken Assassins use Wild Strike like nuts, which is why I wait to activate MoR).

Also, I did manage to run this build with some success in Raisu Palace. There, you must swap in Spellbreaker (meaning only Mo/Me's can do that run), unless you want to spend a ton of time dodging the Shiro'ken Mesmers (which, although they don't shatter, are a PAIN because of Diversion and Arcane Languor). It is quite a bit harder to run this build in Raisu Palace, and it will only work if there is a Famine up and Warriors/Assassins in the mob. Interruptions become a much bigger problem, especially when an Assassin randomly hits you with disrupting chop right as you cast Spirit Bond.

IMO, for the Raisu Palace run, the drops are not worth the effort; it takes quite a bit of time to manipulate everything into one nicely packed ball for SV/AV to do the job. All I ever managed to get was a very large collection of Soul Stones. Harvest Temple is nice for a quick bit of cash, though.

MelechRic · Aug 26, 2006, 03:56 PM // 15:56

I've been doing the Harvest Temple run most of the morning. In about an hour I made 15k and got one Golden Phoenix Blade (req 12) +5 energy so I'm very happy. The rest of the drops were crap and I eventually got the anti-farming message so I guess I'm done for a bit.

It's a decent farm which I'd compare to a Drok's Troll run. Just substitute Soul Stones for Troll Tusks and Forbidden Staves for Raven Staves and you've got essentially the same thing.

Overall a very satisfying farm.

lundis · Aug 26, 2006, 09:15 PM // 21:15

ahhhh now i get why they all died so fast..... i used SV...lol^^
i farmed those some weeks ago but the rangers killed me with that -10 energy shot

Mr Crapsicle · Aug 26, 2006, 10:13 PM // 22:13

It's functional as a monk. I dropped my ill to 11 pumped that into Divine and used Blessed Aura to extend the ps/pb. so 25% extended +20% from weapon. MoR is handy.

I found it to be pretty much a button masher and a little tedious and time consuming. You must group them up or you will find it even more tedious. It seemed easier getting two groups to me, but you still have the rangers and distance to deal with.

BaconSoda · Aug 26, 2006, 10:37 PM // 22:37

With the SB disruption, i bring MoP, almost the same thing with 11 prot. 480-400 hp with Prot. Spirit. hopefully, u can survive the 5 second gap in protection ..

Skyi · Aug 26, 2006, 10:58 PM // 22:58

i can imagine a dual run in UW: monk/me (sv) - ranger (famine)

clark_wilson · Aug 27, 2006, 05:04 AM // 05:04

Skyi there is already a build for that.

As for me, I changed my build a bit and hardly ever die. Just those times where I get knocked out of MoR and my Spirit Bond somehow gets countered.

11 Illusion
14 Prot
6 Inspiration
Rest in Divine Favor

My free slot is now Life Attunement so Spirit Bond now gains me 140 roughly per hit, while taking around 50ish.

I love the purdy colors.

Indian · Aug 28, 2006, 10:11 PM // 22:11

thx bro, gonna this gonna help my mesmer to reach 5 mill exp now

Mistress Kaldori · Aug 29, 2006, 08:12 PM // 20:12

I don't get it...

I tried this, with the same armor, weapons, and attributes as you guys..

Put on Spirit Bond + Prot Spirit after Balthazar's Spirit and Essence Bond...

They just pwn me in 5 seconds, not even giving me a chance to apply Av/Sv

SirShadowrunner · Aug 29, 2006, 08:36 PM // 20:36

Tried this out for my first time today, and got the anti-farm message real quick, lol, wow what way to rack up skill points.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistress Kaldori

I don't get it...

I tried this, with the same armor, weapons, and attributes as you guys..

Put on Spirit Bond + Prot Spirit after Balthazar's Spirit and Essence Bond...

They just pwn me in 5 seconds, not even giving me a chance to apply Av/Sv

You should be able to run right thru the mobs with those four skills up, make
sure SB really stays up, I have been interrupted and killed instantly several
times trying to keep SB or PS up, I need to work on not getting MoR ripped
off, I read the assassins are guilty there.

MelechRic · Aug 29, 2006, 08:36 PM // 20:36

Well, most likely you're not using 15AL armor from Shing Jae Monastery. You need to take a lot of damage for Spirit Bond to trigger. Also, do not carry a wand or staff. This will cause Assassins to cast Shadow Shroud on you. Take a +5 energy sword/bow/axe/hammer.

Here's my Monk/Mesmer build:

As you can see, they are totally destroyed. My attributes are as follows:

Prot: 16 (12 + 1 + 3 ) *I use a superior rune on a prot head tattoo.
Illusion: 12
Inspiration 3

Equipment:
15 AL Shing Jae Monastery armor for everything except the head. I just use my Droknar's 60AL headpiece because I didn't feel like spending the cash on another superior Protection rune.

Totem Axe, Rajazan's Fervor or other +5e 20% enchant weapon.

Skill Bar:
------------------
Spirit Bond
Protective Spirit
Ancestors Visage
Sympathetic Visage
Mantra of Resolve
Essence Bond
Balthazar's Spirit
Amity {E} ** my personal twist and a good one.

Why Amity? Well even with Mantra of Resolve you can get interrupted. Assassins use Wild Blow which will knock you right out of MoR. Amity solves this. At 16 prot it will last 21 seconds. However, you don't want it to last that long since you need hits for energy.

How to use Amity? Basically I run around like a chicken with its head cut off. I aggro all but the last group of Shiro'ken. (I'll explain this later.) Then I loop around the rangers to tighten them into a ball. All the while pulling my "pain train" of Shiro'ken Warriors and Assassins. Refreshing PS/SB as needed. When the Rangers are balled up I lead the "pain train" up to them. Hit MoR immediately following with Amity. BAM! Quiet. **I have yet to be interrupted in the time MoR hits and the 1/4 second it takes to cast Amity.** Now I can cast AV/SV unmolested. Then I carefully [TAB] [SPACE], [TAB] [SPACE]... to unleash the onslaught.

If anything is left standing I pull it to the last group of Shiro'ken and repeat.

I've found that leaving the last group alone until the end almost always results in me killing everything. It allows me to "ball up" the rangers and bring the melee near them.

Amity... also great when you have been interrupted on your AV/SV and you need a breather to wait for a recharge. The only danger is that you need a few hits to keep your energy up. If you Amity everything then you may need to break aggro until you can recharge.

Overall it's doubled my efficiency and success rate.

Cheers!

EDIT: A note here: When you Amity the mob be very careful that you won't be out of energy after casting AV/SV. You may need to refresh SB/PS and if nothing is hitting you that is bad. It's best to be at full energy when you do MoR/Amity. Then hit SV or AV. Then restart the aggro by attacking a foe. Of course keep PS/SB up too.

I've found that you don't need both AV/SV up one right after the other. Basically casting one will be enough to drain all the adrenaline and energy from the foes around you. Then you should be able to cast the other about half way through the recharge of the first one. Without adrenaline or energy you most likely won't be interrupted. Of course keeping MoR up is the best policy as it's good insurance against an annoying interrupt.

EDIT #2: I didn't know if an offhand would trigger Shadow Shroud or not so I didn't bring one. It seems that it doesn't, but I haven't tested it. I'm basing this on what I've seen in SS from other people. Either way, I'll test it and report back.

Mistress Kaldori · Aug 29, 2006, 08:54 PM // 20:54

Very nice MelechRic, but I can only get my Prot to 12, seeing as i'm a Mesmer.

Hmmm so having crappy armor is that important? O.o

I'll buy the +15 AL and see if it works...

MelechRic · Aug 29, 2006, 09:01 PM // 21:01

Low armor level is definitely important. You need to take a lot of damage in order to trigger Spirit Bond's healing effect. Otherwise you'll just have damage reduction from Protective Spirit but zero healing.

Sorry about not being a monk primary. Even so, a 20% enchant weapon and Amity is very worthwhile. As a mesmer, Fast Casting would be worth putting points into.

MelechRic · Aug 29, 2006, 10:15 PM // 22:15

Hmm, you must have deleted your "but how do you kill the rangers post." I'll leave my answer here anyway...

To kill rangers you have to be near them when the warriors and assassins are hitting you. What I do is get aggro from the first three groups. As you move further away from the rangers they will follow (but at a distance). Then before I get to the fourth group I head back the way I came. I circle around the rangers a few times refreshing PS/SB as needed. By circling the rangers will begin to gather into a tight group. Once the ranger group is tight enough I run right to it and stop. The assassin and warrior train will follow me and start hitting me.

MoR + Amity = all quiet and waiting patiently for me to cast SV

After I cast SV I hit one of the monsters near me. That should end Amity and start up the attacks again. (You may need to attack a few foes for this to work.)

Now the rangers are in aggro range and will start taking damage from Famine because SV is draining their energy too. Rangers typically drop one or two hits before Warriors and Assassins do. I'm unsure as to why. They may either have lower HP or have used up their energy faster than the Assassin/Warriors.

I may try to make a small video showing how I do the run. I'll youtube it if I do and put the link here.